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	<title>Comments on: Why Real Estate Agents Form Corps or LLCs for Their Own Business</title>
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	<description>Form a new LLC - Form an S Corporation</description>
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		<title>By: Matthew Burgess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a myriad of web sites that are just a few Google clicks away that will tell you &quot;the answer,&quot; but I always recommend that you have a conversation with a business attorney on questions like this. Each situation is different, and the law is always changing (and varies by state).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a myriad of web sites that are just a few Google clicks away that will tell you &#8220;the answer,&#8221; but I always recommend that you have a conversation with a business attorney on questions like this. Each situation is different, and the law is always changing (and varies by state).</p>
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		<title>By: TimT</title>
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		<dc:creator>TimT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve repeatedly heard that a partnership is the single worst entity you could form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve repeatedly heard that a partnership is the single worst entity you could form.</p>
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		<title>By: lawinc</title>
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		<dc:creator>lawinc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re going to start a business with somebody else,. Forming a partnership is usually the most common approach since it&#039;s easier and cheaper to manage than the corporate cousins; namely the Corporation and Limited Liability Corporation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#39;re going to start a business with somebody else,. Forming a partnership is usually the most common approach since it&#39;s easier and cheaper to manage than the corporate cousins; namely the Corporation and Limited Liability Corporation.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Burgess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 21:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you&#039;re contemplating is something that we see quite often. There can be many tax benefits to forming a business entity. We can&#039;t recommend one form over another, as that is an issue for a CPA or an attorney. I can say that tax treatment for S corps and LLCs will be both a federal (IRS) issue and a state-by-state issue. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For example, to the best of my knowledge, in California, LLC&#039;s are taxed on gross receipts, not net profit. Up to a certain level of gross revenue (I believe it&#039;s $200k or 250k), you pay the minimum franchise tax. But over that level, an LLC pays a measured tax on gross receipts. So as an LLC in California, you could be at breakeven or a loss, and you&#039;re still getting hit with a big tax bill for high gross receipts. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So the question of &quot;should I form an LLC or an S-Corp?&quot; often comes down, in California, to how much gross revenue you expect to earn. We&#039;ve heard from many CPAs who actively discourage their clients from forming an LLC in California, because they feel that the client will get killed on state taxes unnecessarily.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I can&#039;t say if there is a similar situation in Washington. But you should talk to an expert locally.  My recommendation is that you speak with a CPA that knows your state&#039;s tax code. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can always Google your way to hundreds of websites that give tons of information. But I would say that you should be careful to rely on website articles for these decisions. They are writing for a broad audience, and every situation has nuance. Plus, all those sites are probably selling you something (or worse, just writing junk articles to draw in traffic and earn money running ads). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In my opinion, the best thing is always to sit down with a qualified CPA to talk about your tax issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you&#39;re contemplating is something that we see quite often. There can be many tax benefits to forming a business entity. We can&#39;t recommend one form over another, as that is an issue for a CPA or an attorney. I can say that tax treatment for S corps and LLCs will be both a federal (IRS) issue and a state-by-state issue. </p>
<p>For example, to the best of my knowledge, in California, LLC&#39;s are taxed on gross receipts, not net profit. Up to a certain level of gross revenue (I believe it&#39;s $200k or 250k), you pay the minimum franchise tax. But over that level, an LLC pays a measured tax on gross receipts. So as an LLC in California, you could be at breakeven or a loss, and you&#39;re still getting hit with a big tax bill for high gross receipts. </p>
<p>So the question of &#8220;should I form an LLC or an S-Corp?&#8221; often comes down, in California, to how much gross revenue you expect to earn. We&#39;ve heard from many CPAs who actively discourage their clients from forming an LLC in California, because they feel that the client will get killed on state taxes unnecessarily.</p>
<p>I can&#39;t say if there is a similar situation in Washington. But you should talk to an expert locally.  My recommendation is that you speak with a CPA that knows your state&#39;s tax code. </p>
<p>You can always Google your way to hundreds of websites that give tons of information. But I would say that you should be careful to rely on website articles for these decisions. They are writing for a broad audience, and every situation has nuance. Plus, all those sites are probably selling you something (or worse, just writing junk articles to draw in traffic and earn money running ads). </p>
<p>In my opinion, the best thing is always to sit down with a qualified CPA to talk about your tax issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 12:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a Realtor in Seattle, Washington - would you recommend an S-Corp or LLC? I&#039;ve heard that S-Corps have better tax incentives since you can take part of your pay as salary (say, $50,000), pay the self-employment tax of 15.3% on that amount...and then take the rest as a distribution. What do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m a Realtor in Seattle, Washington &#8211; would you recommend an S-Corp or LLC? I&#39;ve heard that S-Corps have better tax incentives since you can take part of your pay as salary (say, $50,000), pay the self-employment tax of 15.3% on that amount&#8230;and then take the rest as a distribution. What do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Burgess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 20:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I agree that many CPAs and accountants recommend forming an LLC for ease of maintanance. But we&#039;ve not seen anyone form an LLC, then go through the trouble of electing to be taxed as an S corp.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To accomplish this, you&#039;d have to take an extra step. First, after forming your entity as a Limited Liability Company, you&#039;d have to file an IRS Form 8332 elect to be taxed as a corporation, rather than as an LLC. Then you can file the IRS Form 2553, the Election by Small Business Corporation, to be taxed an S corporation. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But I can&#039;t imagine why anyone would go to this trouble, because you end up right back at being taxed in a pass through manner. It&#039;s a big circle.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I imagine there may be a difference in taxation if there is only one LLC member (owner), in which case the entity is considered a &quot;disregarded entity&quot; by the IRS. In that case, there may be a distinction with S corp taxation that is important, but we&#039;ve never seen anyone do that, nor ever heard a CPA recommend it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We&#039;ve seen our clients file the Form 8832, but only when they wanted the compliance simplicity of and LLC but they wish to be taxed as a *C Corp*. It&#039;s rare, but we&#039;ve seen it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I agree that many CPAs and accountants recommend forming an LLC for ease of maintanance. But we&#39;ve not seen anyone form an LLC, then go through the trouble of electing to be taxed as an S corp.</p>
<p>To accomplish this, you&#39;d have to take an extra step. First, after forming your entity as a Limited Liability Company, you&#39;d have to file an IRS Form 8332 elect to be taxed as a corporation, rather than as an LLC. Then you can file the IRS Form 2553, the Election by Small Business Corporation, to be taxed an S corporation. </p>
<p>But I can&#39;t imagine why anyone would go to this trouble, because you end up right back at being taxed in a pass through manner. It&#39;s a big circle.</p>
<p>I imagine there may be a difference in taxation if there is only one LLC member (owner), in which case the entity is considered a &#8220;disregarded entity&#8221; by the IRS. In that case, there may be a distinction with S corp taxation that is important, but we&#39;ve never seen anyone do that, nor ever heard a CPA recommend it.</p>
<p>We&#39;ve seen our clients file the Form 8832, but only when they wanted the compliance simplicity of and LLC but they wish to be taxed as a *C Corp*. It&#39;s rare, but we&#39;ve seen it.</p>
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		<title>By: formacaliforniacorporation</title>
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		<dc:creator>formacaliforniacorporation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 05:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can set up a limited liability company and then make the Subchapter S election to have the limited liability company treated for income tax purposes as an S corporation. Many knowledgeable accountants and attorneys now recommend the limited-liability-company route because limited liability companies are easier to &quot;maintain&quot; than regular corporations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can set up a limited liability company and then make the Subchapter S election to have the limited liability company treated for income tax purposes as an S corporation. Many knowledgeable accountants and attorneys now recommend the limited-liability-company route because limited liability companies are easier to &#8220;maintain&#8221; than regular corporations.</p>
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